tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1866099065630475981.post4422388481412602823..comments2024-03-06T21:18:20.909+13:00Comments on Aryan(Nordic Alpine) Aliens: GreeksAryanAlienhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01740722596481257821noreply@blogger.comBlogger197125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1866099065630475981.post-18794840641673532902015-04-11T00:31:23.714+12:002015-04-11T00:31:23.714+12:00Americans are so fucking dumb and uneducated that ...Americans are so fucking dumb and uneducated that they believe everything the Zionist elite tell them.<br />Alexander the Great was born in Pella.<br />Now correct me if i am wrong but isnt Pella in Greece (Macedonia).These FYROMIAN Bulgarian,Albanian wannabe Macedonians are dreaming and distorting the facts if they believe that they have an ounce of Macedonian blood in them.By the way,Illyria and Thrace were Greek also so any theory which suggests Macedonians as being of foreign blood is pure fantasy because the area which denoted Macedonia in Ancient times doesnt include todays FYROM.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1866099065630475981.post-28325023199298814502015-04-11T00:19:52.323+12:002015-04-11T00:19:52.323+12:00Greeks have always been and always will be a mixtu...Greeks have always been and always will be a mixture of nordic,alpine and mediteranean blood. Anyone who says the modern Greeks are more a Pelasgian type,<br />do not know what they are talking about and have probably never gone to Greece or studied ethnography like i have.They are just envious Nordics who can not stand the fact that Greece was the pinnacle of Aryan achievement that will not be duplicated. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1866099065630475981.post-44975180400811512532015-03-29T00:40:14.967+13:002015-03-29T00:40:14.967+13:00The current name of FYRoM cannot be the basis on w...The current name of FYRoM cannot be the basis on which the inhabitants there begin their ethnogenesis story. South-Slavs there stake their paternal-maternal origins in Macedon, on the basis of country-name, and scripted themselves a national historical narrative on that basis. But before 1945, FYRoM's name was 'Vardaska' with Slavic history and heritage to match. In Europe, we cannot have a situation where newly emergent country FYRoM, bases ethno-origins on country-name that was acquired during end years of WWII, after 1945.<br /><br />In Europe, we must all be reading from one same history book. The history of Europe is intertwined. We cannot have a situation where one country is allowed to teach different history to their children pupils and students with impunity and without consequences. What is taught in FYRoM contradicts the concise history of Europe and places into disrepute the western-worlds cultural-historical narrative.<br /><br />What FYRoM is doing is wrong, it breaks all the rules governing European standards, morals ethics and codes of conduct. Scripting a national historical narrative that contravenes academic disciplines and fails to comply with European teaching norms goes against all those rules. What FYRoM does with Macedonian history is detrimental to European history as a whole. <br /><br />The current name of FYRoM cannot be the basis on which young impressionable South-Slavic children learn about themselves, about their ethnogenesis story. Basing FYRoM history on post 1945 name, completely blurs the distinction between Yugoslavian-identity and Macedonian-identity, it mystifies FYRoM current identity with Slavic and Hellenic histories and this is both confusing and problematic. <br /><br />FYRoM's children pupils and students deserve a history and heritage, an ethnogenesis story that is both consistent and compatible with what is known about them, in Europe and beyond. Pre-Slavic history and post 1945 name, cannot be the basis on which FYRoM bases ethnogenic beginnings. <br /><br />FYRoM is not Macedon, FYRoM language is not Macedonian. FYRoM inhabitants are not Macedonians. Macedon and Macedonians belong to Hellenic world, to Greek history, to Greek-Hellenic collective of peoples. <br /><br />Show respect to European history, or pay the price - prolonged isolation!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1866099065630475981.post-57348189036608145082015-03-23T00:41:54.348+13:002015-03-23T00:41:54.348+13:00Ancient-Macedonians boasted cultural and linguisti...Ancient-Macedonians boasted cultural and linguistic connections to Hellenic world. They shared common religion with Greek City-States and participated in the Olympic games, an event reserved only for Greeks. On culture, language, religion and history, Macedonians connected to Greeks in Hellenic world. Macedon began in 8th Century BC, as an ancient-Greek Kingdom, Macedonians connected themselves to a Greek-speaking culture that continued right through the Hellenic, latin-Roman, Greco-Roman and Ottoman eras, Macedonians Greek identity shone through all of them up to today.<br /><br />For the South-Slavs of FYRoM to claim that they too connect to Macedon and Macedonians needs some explaining. <br />Slavic scholars, demographers, philologists and ethnologists, state quite clearly that Slavonic peoples are completely unconnected to the Hellenic world, on history, language, and culture. On this basis, Greeks cannot permit NoN-Greeks to usurp the Macedonian name for country-name...sovereign state-name, nationality, language or ethnicity. <br /><br />Two John Smiths could live in peace, side by side, next door to each other, but if one John Smith attempts to usurp the Identity of the other one...what should the first John Smith do about it, how should he react to the second John Smiths attempts at Identity theft. When a neighbour paints and decorates the outside of his house the same as yours, and then takes on your name and address, adorns internal walls of his house with picture portraits of your forbears, and then petitions to register them exclusively his own - how should one react to these provocations? <br /><br />To have a troublesome neighbour next door to you using your name and Identity, decorating his house the same as your house, adorning it with same similar fixtures and fittings, claiming your family members for his relatives, staking claim and making claims to your house with it's belongings...this is a provocation, a clear threat to your existence, this is what FYRoM is doing to a part of Greece!<br /><br />Two John Smiths could live in peace, side by side, next door to each other, but with clear and precise distinctions differentiating them, this is what the Greeks are asking for - that FYRoM distinguishes itself from Macedon, from Macedonians, from Greek history and from Greek heritage.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1866099065630475981.post-81327330577859914582015-03-16T00:04:06.019+13:002015-03-16T00:04:06.019+13:00Macedonia the extended region is not exclusively G...Macedonia the extended region is not exclusively Greek…just Macedon is. The ancient-Greek kingdom kept a Greek presence there continuously, for >3 Millenniums. Macedonians from Macedon deserve respect for preserving historical cohesion and keeping continuity. FYRoM contesting Macedons Hellenic credentials is the main obstacle keeping this newly established minor Slavic country from realizing it’s stated objectives to join the western worlds most prestigious economic and security structures of the EU and NATO.<br /><br />Macedon and Macedonians deserve respect for contributing massively towards early development of western civilizational principles. Macedonians from Macedon are responsible for Western civil societies common understandings of shared common heritage. FYRoM touting for recognition under the name ‘Republic of Macedonia’ blurs the distinction between Macedonians and Yugoslavians, between Macedon and Paeonia…Hellenes from South-Slavs.<br /><br />Greeks understand that new emerging countries have right to name themselves by any name they like, but FYRoM chose a name that belongs to an ancient-Greek Kingdom, which Greeks hold dear, kick-starting off a name dispute with Greece that is now in the early years of it’s third decade.<br /><br />But the idea that newly emerging countries can name themselves by any name they like is not strictly entirely true, there are encumbrances, constraints and limitations…cultural-concerns for example, historical-considerations for another example, intellectual-property ownership for final example.<br /><br />FYRoM tested the Western worlds legal systems on all of those important identity-factors, bringing to the fore some noticeable operational weaknesses, flaws that are looked upon like undesirable features which question the integrity of Western legal frameworks ability to cope with challenges. Slavic claimants to Macedonian legacy is one example. Rewriting Western-worlds cultural-historical narrative is another example. Illegitimate use of another<br />persons intellectual-property, for final example.<br /><br />The idea that a newly emergent country can use the name of an ancient-Greek Kingdom for country-name…sovereign state-name, nationality, language and ethnicity poses very real important questions for the West which demand answers, (i) philosophical questions, (ii) moral ethical questions, (iii) cultural-historical questions, (iv) intellectual-property questions, (v) cultural-inheritance questions. The name dispute between FYRoM and Greece used up so much diplomatic time, so many political resources, covered so many academic disciplines, tested so many legalities, that it threatens to stay unresolved for indefinite period of time.<br /><br />FYRoM recognized like ‘Republic of Macedonia’ if legitimized, would put the Western worlds cultural-historical narrative into disrepute…hence, FYRoM cannot exist like ‘Republic of Macedonia’ on that basis.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1866099065630475981.post-46431336647138233312015-03-11T07:03:57.845+13:002015-03-11T07:03:57.845+13:00FYRoM is not Macedon, it is Paeonia and then Darda...FYRoM is not Macedon, it is Paeonia and then Dardania north from Skopje. The latin-Romans incorporated those places into one military district they named Macedonia Secunda Salutaris - transliteration means Second-Macedonia, or Beneficial-Macedonia. The latin-Romans preserved Hellenic status of Macedon by naming the Kingdom Macedonia Prima, it means first Macedonia. Roman fondness for all things Hellenic ensured Macedon was kept Greek separate and distinct.<br /><br />FYRoM exists on the ignorant uneducated actions of some WWII era (1944-1945) Communist Yugoslavs who revived the latin-Roman name for Paeonia and Dardania. FYRoM is not Macedon, it is Macedonia Secunda Salutaris. The peoples there are Haemus Paeonian-Dardanian natives who over time,<br />Hellenized, Romanized, Greco-Romanized, Slavicized, Bulgarized, Turkified. The prevailing identity to break through and shine through all of that, is Slavic. FYRoM is Slavic now, same like Slovenians, Montenegrins, Serbians, Croatians and Bulgarians…this collective forms Southern-branch of Slavdom. There was never, in the recorded history of the Slavs, a Macedonian tribe of Slavs.<br /><br />Macedonians belong to Hellenic collective of peoples, with affiliations, fraternal kinship ties, blood connections towards Hellenism and other Greeks. So those who see FYRoM like Macedonia and ex-Yugoslavians like Macedonians, are by nature, anti-Hellenic, anti-Western by extension. Those who see Paeonia like Macedonia are void of geographic and historical knowledge. Those who see ex-Yugoslavians like Macedonians see them that way through anti-Hellenic eyes. Those who see Macedonian things in FYRoM and see Macedonian things on Yugoslavians, have issues with Greeks, geography, history and demography.<br /><br />I say again: FYRoM is not Macedonia and the peoples there are Slavic now. On the other hand, Macedonians have always been a Centum Greek-speaking Hellenic-peoples from since >3 Millenniums. The Western world owes them respect! The ancient-Kingdom of Macedon contributed greatly towards development of Western Civilizational Principles. FYRoM contributed nothing!<br /><br />FYRoM has no right, historical or cultural, to take-on the name and identity of a Hellenic people-group...end of story!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1866099065630475981.post-3983117848959407302015-03-09T02:52:50.669+13:002015-03-09T02:52:50.669+13:00Greece holds the academic and moral high-ground. T...Greece holds the academic and moral high-ground. The Onus is on FYRoM to compromise, so say the EU, UN, USA, NATO and the International Academic Community. The compromise must conclude in definitive manner, the name-dispute between FYRoM and Greece which is now in the early years of it’s third decade still unresolved. The compromise is for FYRoM to achieve. No compromise, No EU. No compromise, No NATO. No compromise, No future…just isolation! FYRoM has big life-changing decision to make. Continued pretensions at political level is no option for FYRoM. The Greek position on the matter remains resolute, (i) Macedonian Name belongs in Greek domain, (ii) Macedonian-Identity belongs to Greek heritage. Macedonians have right to keep as Greek as possible, the identity-characteristics of their Haemus-Hellenic ancestors. There are no Macedonians above these Greek ones. Nobody of worth, from politics, diplomacy or academia, sees FYRoM like Macedon or Yugoslavians like Macedonians.<br /><br />There can be no 'Republic of Macedonia' just as there can be no 'Republic of Sparta' outside of Hellenism. The rights of FYRoM do not supersede the rights of Macedonians wanting to keep as Greek as possible, the identity-characteristics of their regional-historical Haemus-Hellenic ancestors. Macedonia(n)- The Name, Identity, History, Heritage, Legacy…All Greek. On this basis, FYRoM has no choice but to compromise, to distinguish itself from the ancient-Kingdom of Macedon.<br /><br />Blurring the distinction between (i) Macedon and Paeonia, (ii) Macedonians from Yugoslavians, (iii) Haemus-Hellene from South-Slav, contributes to the erosion of Western Civil Societies common understandings in shared common heritage…the fabric from which the West wove it’s cloth, the glue that binds Western democracies adherence to common Civilizational Principles. Erode the Western worlds cultural-historical narrative. Erode the Wests common cultural heritage. Erode Western Civil Societies common understandings of shared common heritage - now sit back and watch the Western worlds cultural-foundation crumble. Those who fight to establish FYRoM like 'Republic of Macedonia' also fight to erode the Western worlds cultural heritage.<br /><br />FYRoM is not Macedonia and the peoples there are Slavic. The West owes FYRoM nothing, the West owes Macedonians a great deal. Macedonians deserve respect…for their contributions towards development of Western Civilization. In the end it all boils down to this: The Macedonian name belongs in Greek domain. Macedonian-Identity belongs to Greek heritage – 2 simple academic reference-points no self-respecting diplomat or politician would argue against, willingly!<br /><br />Lest we forget: Slavs settled the Haemus peninsula 6th Century AD, but not as Macedonians, this name was foreign to them. There were no Slavic tribes self-declaring 'Macedonian' at that time, and there was no 'Macedonia' in the Slavic world until 1945 when Comrade Tito, the Croat Communist dictator of wartime WWII Yugoslavia created it. FYRoM was south Serbian province 'Vardaska' before 1945 and 'Peoples Republic of Makedonija' after 1945. The inhabitants spoke 'Slavic Bulgarian' before 1944 and so called 'Macedonian' after 1944. Comrade Tito, on his will and his command, did Slavic philologists Serbianize the Bulgarian language...seeded it with five Serbian letters, then baptized it Macedonian-language in the autumn of 1944.<br /><br />More important: The Tombstones of the dearly departed, their ancestors, whether buried on Greek soil or FYRoM (Paeonian) soil, had Bulgarian script engraved on them pre 1944. Post 1944, that same Bulgarian script became 'Macedonian' after inclusion of 5 Serbian letters. This is the absurdity of the name dispute between FYRoM and Greece.<br /><br />Compromise: The Onus is on FYRoM to compromise, to end the name dispute in conclusive definitive manner for all time thereafter.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1866099065630475981.post-11296944406747539402015-02-07T11:45:36.602+13:002015-02-07T11:45:36.602+13:00Alexander the Great took a small Greek Kingdom and...Alexander the Great took a small Greek Kingdom and converted it into big Greek Empire. He built, rebuilt, or renamed approximately 70 cities, in the classic Greek-style gridiron-plan. Most still bear his name up to today. The farthest, northernmost city he founded was in ancient Sogdiana, today Tajikistan.<br /><br />Alexandria Eschate: ‘Eschate’ translates to ‘farthest’, signifying this city’s position on the Jaxartes (Syr Darya) river that marked the northern edge of Alexander’s empire (reached in 329 BC) where his troops would do battle against the Scythian tribes to the north and the Sogdian peoples that surrounded them. Formerly the site of Cyropolis, the northeasternmost city of the Persian Empire of Cyrus the Great, Alexandria Eschate lay at the western end of the Fergana Valley, making it a major location on the Silk Road trading route connecting Europe and Asia. Today, the city is called Khujand, the second-largest city and northernmost major city of Tajikistan.<br /><br />Khujand is one of Tajikistans most ancient cities, founded about 2,300 years ago during the time of Alexander the Great. According to Greek historians, in 329 B.C. Alexander the Great founded a fortress on the River Tanais or Yaksart (present-day Syr Darya River), which formed a natural border for his empire. He named it after himself and populated it with Greek warriors and local "barbarians" (i.e. the local population). Of course, this fortress was not initially really a town. However, later, due to its strategic geographical location, it became densely populated and turned into a large town (by the standards of that time), known historically as Alexandria Eskhata (Outermost Alexandria).<br /><br />The point is this: Tajiks descend from ancient Sogdiani people, the local population-dynamic that inhabited the region during the time of Alexander the Great. Tajiks then, could stake claim and make claims to the ancient-Macedonian Name, Identity, History, Heritage, Legacy...on the basis of cross-fertilization between Macedonians and Sogdians. The same argument FYRoM uses to justify Yugoslavian claims to the same.<br /><br />If Tajiks were to do that...make claim and stake claims to Macedonian Name, Identity, History, Heritage and Legacy, they would have rightful, lawful, more realistic claim than FYRoM, because Alexander the Great did actually visit the place. The evidence is in the city he founded - Alexandria Eschate.<br /><br />Tajiks of course are a proud peoples who can, if they desire, draw upon many heritages. The laws governing population-dynamics dictate that people-groups can blossom more than one heritage. Tajiks, on basis of their intermingling and interactions with Greeks, could claim Macedonian heritage...and stake claim to the benefits which derive from that fact, much in the same way FYRoM does.<br /><br />Put the two together - FYRoM and Tajikistan...now compare them, who has more right, more lawful realistic claim to the Macedonian Name, Identity, History, Heritage and Legacy. Tajikistan obviously wins hands down because Alexander the Great did set foot in ancient Sogdiana. The historical and archaeological evidence is there, real and overwhelming. FYRoM cannot compete with Tajikistan on matters pertaining to Macedonian connections because it is a matter of material fact.<br /><br />FYRoM competes with Greece over historical matters long settled by academia. Macedon is Greek Kingdom. Greeks live there >3 Milleniums. Macedonians are Hellenic on this basis - Go ask the Tajiks! They would tell you...Macedonians never met Slavs, never spoke Slavic, never lived in FYRoM. Do the Math!<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1866099065630475981.post-21055231774236303612015-02-01T01:08:44.375+13:002015-02-01T01:08:44.375+13:00The Greek-speaking peoples of Macedon view the Sla...The Greek-speaking peoples of Macedon view the Slavic-speaking peoples of FYRoM like crude imposter opportunist's, staking claim and making claims to ancient Greek achievements their Slavic forebears played no part in. The benefits for them contesting Macedonian identity are twofold...(i) FYRoM Slavic-speakers get to rewrite Western worlds cultural-historical narrative, and (ii) FYRoM becomes default heir inheritor of ancient-Macedonian legacy. <br /><br />The Slavic-speaking peoples of FYRoM view the Greek-speaking peoples of Macedon like occupiers living on their land illegally. They see Greeks like foreigners and Macedon like their own sacred primordial homelend. They teach young Slavic children, pupils, and students to see themselves like Macedonians, their Slavic-country like 'Republic of Macedonia' and their Slavic-language like Macedonian-language. Every child in FYRoM is taught to self-determine on that state approved nomenclature.<br /><br />Greeks from Macedon see Yugoslavians from FYRoM like Southern-Slavs who trace their paternal ancestry back, in backward compatible steps, to Serbian tribes or Bulgarian tribes. Greeks do not see them like bona-fide Macedonians. Macedonians with Greek heritage view Southern-Slavs with Serbian or Bulgarian ancestry like newcomers, the progeny of Slavic settlers who made the Haemus peninsula their home during settlement period, from the 6th Century AD. <br /><br />Yugoslavians from FYRoM see Macedonians from Greece like biggest enemy. Greece is Western creation they say. Greece was created by the West to cheat Slavic peoples from their true history and heritage. They see Greeks like Africans Turks and Albanians, they see Greece like enemy number one, and Hellenism like loaded word beyond hate. Yugoslavians from FYRoM see Macedonians from Greece like Western creation, created by the West to cheat Yugoslavians from their true history and heritage which they equate to Alexander the Great and the ancient Macedonians from antiquity.<br /><br />Macedonians from Greece view Yugoslavians from FYRoM like brainwashed indoctrinated South-Slavs...politicized South-Slavs, propagandized to agitate for return of Northern-Greek territory. Macedon was never Greek they say. Macedonians were never Greeks they say. Macedonia for the Macedonians, they say. <br />Greek-speakers from Macedon, view Slavic-speakers from FYRoM like very gullible, simple-minded, easily-led peoples. Tell them to equate Macedonians to proto-Slavs and they do it. Tell them they live in Macedon, and they believe it. Tell them they speak Macedonian and they believe that too. <br /><br />Greeks from Macedon swear oath to defend and protect what is theirs by birthright. Macedonians owe it to the ancestors, to keep as Greek as possible, the identity-characteristics of their Paleo-Haemus Hellenic ancestors. Greeks from Macedon cannot allow NoN-Greeks from FYRoM to usurp the Macedonian Name, Identity, History, Heritage, Legacy. Why ? Because Greeks are proud of Macedonian contributions to world history. <br /><br />Macedonians from Greece see Yugoslavians from FYRoM like imposter opportunists wanting to benefit from Greek achievements to world history. Recognition of FYRoM to 'Republic of Macedonia' empowers minor Slavic country to do just that. Greece warned the West this would happen. The international Academic Community warned the West this would happen. Now FYRoM spits at the West. Quasi-official recognition has empowered FYRoM to sit it out indefinitely. In the eyes of a FYRoM Yugoslav - Macedonians have always been Macedonian-speaking Macedonians from Republic of Macedonia. What better way to rubbish Greeks, Greece, and Hellenism...there is no better way, is there!<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1866099065630475981.post-77519227792087300012015-01-28T03:28:00.623+13:002015-01-28T03:28:00.623+13:00Yugoslavia when it existed, was home to all South-...Yugoslavia when it existed, was home to all South-Slavs with exception of Bulgaria. Civil society's common understandings of shared common heritage there, traced back to Slavic. Changes to that understanding came to FYRoM after the fall of socialism in 1991 when Yugoslavia went into self-destruct mode, expired, disintegrated, ceased to exist like contingent continuant land of the South-Slavs. From one Federal Socialist Yugoslavia, 6 new Republics came into being, with 7th one (Kosovo) pending to become one. Our focus though, is on FYRoM the 6th one. The Democratic Peoples Republic of Makedonija came to Yugoslavia August 2nd 1944, when southern Yugoslavia was under Bulgarian occupation. The name changed shortly afterwards to Peoples Republic of Macedonija in 1945. In 1946, it was formally incorporated into the Yugoslav Federation proper. In 1963, the name changed again to Socialist Republic of Macedonija. And in 1991, FYRoM declared full independence whereupon the name went through one more change to become Republic of Macedonia. <br /><br />The concept of making changes to civil society's common understandings of shared common heritage came to FYRoM during late 1980's with big influx of (i) western money, and (ii) Canadian diasporic ideas related to foreign policy stance. Most of the funds were used to finance literary production of pseudo-historical revisionism and most of the ideas were orientated towards humiliating Greek people, ridiculing Greece, and belittling Hellenism. Civil society's common understandings of shared common heritage in FYRoM, changed. Slavic heritage changed to Macedonian heritage on scripture of national historical narrative which made ancient-Macedonians, proto-Slavs, and Alexander the Great, the first Czar of the Slavs. Western money and Canadian diasporic ideas set FYRoM on wrong path towards self-destruction.<br /><br />FYRoM should have stayed true to it's Slavic heritage and scripted itself national ethnogenesis story to reflect that, rather than contest verity of Western-worlds long-established cultural-historical narrative. In that narrative Macedon is Greek Kingdom. Greeks live there >3 Millenniums. Macedonians are Hellenic on this basis. FYRoM is 24 years old this year, and still trying to figure out how to balance paternal Slavic heritage with fictitious Macedonian one. Laws governing population-dynamics dictate that people-groups can blossom more than one heritage but in the FYRoM case, it would need the tacit approval of Yugoslavian population-dynamic to split heritage into 2 parts...Pre-Slavic heritage before 6th Century AD, and Slavic heritage afterwards. To put it another way - Byzantine heritage before 6th Century AD, and Slavic heritage afterwards.<br /><br />Macedonian heritage through the Byzantine connection is argument to be had, but a very weak one. Continuity always follows path of least resistance...FYRoM claims to Macedonian heritage is a claim, but a frail tired claim, when weighted against Greece, the Hellenic Republic, the legitimate heir inheritor of Byzantine Eastern-Roman Empire. FYRoM fighting against Greece for historic rights, and heritage rights to Macedonian legacy is a fight FYRoM cannot win. The overlap between Southernmost Slavs and Northernmost Greeks, may entitle some Slavs to claim Macedonian heritage, and some Greeks to claim Slavic heritage, the delineation between the two is cultural and linguistic only, nothing more than this. Slavs live next to Macedonians, for >1300 years - Greeks know Slavs and Slavs know Macedonians. The distinction between them is not so blurry, one cannot tell who is who!<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1866099065630475981.post-69566516219867623462015-01-26T04:58:53.289+13:002015-01-26T04:58:53.289+13:00Greeks were the only peoples in antiquity to build...Greeks were the only peoples in antiquity to build theaters. Macedon had 4 of them. It means the audience could understand Greek, the satire, the humour, the logic, and ofcourse, the play being staged and the story being performed by Greek actors. The name 'Macedon' is recorded in history like ancient-Greek Kingdom dating back to the 8th Century BC. The Kingdom is also mentioned that way by Homer, and by the ancient geographer Strabo. Sources ranging from the Jewish Torah to the Christian Bible depict Macedon the same...so it would take a brave politician to ignore these these points of reference in order to see FYRoM recognized like Republic of Macedonia. <br /><br />Mount Olympus, the home of Greek Gods is located in Macedon. At the foot of the mountain, excavations have unearthed ancient Macedonian burial grounds engraved solely with Greek inscriptions and strewn solely with Greek material culture. More than 5,000 relics excavated from Macedon soil carry only Greek inscriptions. There is no earthly reason, anthropologic, archaelogic or historic to suggest that Macedon was Yugoslavic - so why is FYRoM staking claim to Macedonian Name, Identity, History, Heritage, Legacy ?<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1866099065630475981.post-4855892982770188272015-01-26T02:12:30.595+13:002015-01-26T02:12:30.595+13:00This year FYRoM is 24 years old and still trying t...This year FYRoM is 24 years old and still trying to resolve a name-dispute who’s vintage is of same age. FYRoM is 24 year-old statelet that is still having problems persuading the UN, EU, USA, NATO and the International Academic Community to accept a recently-established minor Slavic country like ‘Republic of Macedonia’. FYRoM is 24 year-old newly-emergent entity somewhere between statelet and nation. National cohesion there has not quite ripened to maturity, enough to call it nation. Nation building there attempts to unify population-dynamic who’s demographic constitutes >3 different ethnic people-groups boasting >3 different but corresponding heritages. Majority Yugoslavs from Serbian and Bulgarian heritages attempt to build nation with Albanian, Turk, Vlach and other compatriots. Countrymen like these, boasting different, Slavic, Turkic, Albanian, Vlach and other heritages, cannot be expected to unite behind ancient-Greek Name, with Macedonian Identity, and with History, Heritage, Legacy to match. This is where FYRoM fails…in the Nation building arena.<br /><br />Nations are recent political constructs built from the ashes of long expired defunkt empires. Nation building is attempt to construct one same common unifying identity, hence, the state needs to come into existence before the nation. The apparatus of state therefore, becomes instrumental in this process. Nation building in FYRoM utilizes the apparatus of state to construct one national identity for Yugoslavs, Albanians, Turks, Vlachs and Others to unite behind. But national cohesion comes only when the constituent population-dynamic can recollect something from collective memory in remembrance of some great event from past history, something common that was shared and is still being celebrated today, in the present. The problem in FYRoM is this: The demographic there share nothing in history, no common themes or synergies – hence, Albanians, Vlachs, Turks and Gypsis cannot be expected to feel any sense of national belonging to the bigger wider Yugoslavic population-dynamic.<br /><br />The majority Yugoslavic population in FYRoM seek to unite the minority demographic there under one same common Macedonian identity. They have used the apparatus of state to build a national identity based on ancient-Greek themes and synergies. They use the name of an ancient-Greek Kingdom for country-name, for sovereign state-name, for nationality, for language and for ethnicity. And base their ethnogenesis story and subsequent history on the same. Everything in FYRoM is Macedonian orientated…and this is very problematic for the NoN-Slavic compatriots there. The majority Yugoslavians in FYRoM, whether they are Serb or Bulgarian in heritage, view each other that way. The Albanians view them that way too. Turks and Gypsis do the same. Basing national identity, national history, national symbols, on ancient-Greek themes and synergies is wrong way to go about nation building. And on this, FYRoM is like a child telling grown-ups what to do and how to do it.<br /><br />FYRoM is 24 years old this year. A newly emergent country. A child in terms of state. Not ripened yet…matured enough for nation. To build a nation you have to do what Alexander the Great did – unite fractious people-dynamic with one vision, under one directive, under one leadership that campaigns for common cause and the national good. Alexander the Great did all of this. He united the fractious Greeks into one unified nation of Hellenes and then went on to export Hellenism, the Greek-language, culture and knowledge to the farthest easternmost reaches of the then known ancient-world. If FYRoM did what Alexander the Great did…Greeks would call Yugoslavians ‘Macedonians’ and view them like brother-peoples, a sister nation to Hellas.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1866099065630475981.post-2375219544516028902015-01-21T06:27:38.283+13:002015-01-21T06:27:38.283+13:00The reason FYRoM and some other South-Slavs despis...The reason FYRoM and some other South-Slavs despise the West so much is because they believe intensley that Modern Greece is the creation of the West. The Western great powers recreated Greece in order to cheat the Slavic race from it’s true history and heritage in the Haemus [Greek] peninsula. Had the peninsula been left alone by the West, there would be no Greeks today but a Greek-speaking ethnic-Roman community scattered around in what used to be called Imperium Romanum Rhomania – The Official name of the Eastern Roman Empire. Had the West left well alone, the Aegean peninsula would now be the home of majority South-Slavic peoples, with some minority Turkic-peoples, Albanians, Vlachs and token number of preserved native Roman-peoples mentioned above, all living in harmony…in big Macedonian-style FYRoM empire, ruled by FYRoM-speaking Macedonian elites!<br /><br />In the real world – Republic of Macedonia is Wrong Name for FYRoM. Call a spade a spade. FYRoM is Not Macedon. FYRoM language is Not Macedonian. FYRoM inhabitants are Not Macedonians. On this basis…Republic of Macedonia is wrong name for FYRoM.<br /><br />FYRoM is Paeonia, then Dardania north from Skopje. FYRoM language is Serbo-Bulgarian similar to Serbo-Croatian. FYRoM inhabitants are South-Slavs similar to Slovenes, Croats, Serbians, Bosnians, Montenegrins and Bulgarians. On this basis…Republic of Macedonia is wrong name for FYRoM.<br /><br />Call a spade a spade. Macedon is Greek Kingdom. Greeks live there >3 Millenniums. Macedonians are Hellenic on this basis. This is important, cannot be emphasized enough. During the time of the Kingdom, Macedonians never met Slavs, never spoke Slavic, never lived in FYRoM. On this basis…Republic of Macedonia is wrong name for FYRoM.<br /><br />Morally, Ethically, Legally – FYRoM ranks low for wanting to possess a name that belongs to an ancient-Greek Kingdom for country-name…sovereign state-name, nationality, language and ethnicity. FYRoM is wrong to covet the Macedonian name, wrong to covet Macedonian identity. FYRoM tests Western legal frameworks for benefit, to stifle progress, to erode Western Civil Societies common understandings of shared common heritage. Morality in FYRoM, code of ethics, standards, values, conduct, behaviour, judging right from wrong, scruples, principles, ideals – are all questionable, in light of state sponsored mass indoctrination which teaches young Slavic children there to self-determine only on state approved nomenclature.<br /><br />Call a spade a spade. FYRoM is Paeonia. The natives there were Hellenized long time ago…Romanized, then Greco-Romanized afterwards. Bulgarized then Slavicized during 6th Century AD, settlement of Bulgaro-Slavic tribes, then Turkified by the Ottoman Turks. Call a spade a spade: The identity-characteristics that shone through all of those historical periods, and which still dominates in FYRoM today, is the Slavic one. FYRoM is Slavic now.<br /><br />Macedonians never met Slavs, never spoke Slavic, never lived in FYRoM – This is important, it cannot be emphasized enough! On this basis…Republic of Macedonia is wrong name for FYRoM.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1866099065630475981.post-57967814496901941862015-01-16T12:03:31.506+13:002015-01-16T12:03:31.506+13:00Laws governing population-dynamics dictate that pe...Laws governing population-dynamics dictate that people-groups can blossom more than one heritage...Scots for example. Greeks for another example. FYRoM ex-Yugoslavs for final example. Modern Scots boast 3 heritages, (i) Heritage from the United Kingdom, (ii) Scotish Heritage, (iii) Pict Heritage. Modern Greeks boast 3 heritages, (i) Heritage from Byzantium, the Eastern Roman Empire, (ii) Hellenic Heritage, (iii) Mycenaean Heritage. The peoples of FYRoM can boast 3 heritages also, (i) Heritage from Yugoslavia, (ii) Bulgarian Heritage, (iii) Byzantine, Eastern Roman Heritage. Rules governing population-dynamics dictate that people-groups can blossom more than one heritage - see examples above.<br /><br />Heritage is ancestral-inheritance, endowment received from immediate forebears. In the Scottish example, modern Scots get their heritage from belonging to a Great Britain since the Act of Union in 1706. Before that Treaty of Union, Scots were priding themselves on cherished Scottish standalone heritage. Scots also get their heritage from the Picts, the indigenous pre-Scottish inhabitants of the highlands. In the Greek example, modern Greeks get their heritage from Byzantium, the Eastern-Roman Empire. Byzantines or Eastern-Romans got their heritage from the Hellenes. The ancient-Hellenes got their heritage from proto-Greek Mycenaeans. In the FYRoM example, the modern inhabitants of FYRoM get their heritage from belonging to Yugoslavia since it came into being in 1918. Before that, FYRoM inhabitants got their heritage from belonging to Serbia, and before that, from belonging to Bulgaria. FYRoM ex-Yugoslavs also get their heritage from Greco-Romans before the Slavs settled there, FYRoM was a Greek-speaking Byzantine military district set-up like safe zone protecting Byzantine inhabitants from Slavic incursions invasions and attacks.<br /><br />This is the furthest back heritage FYRoM can draw upon...FYRoM heritage cannot go further back because people-dynamics do not allow for it! The rules governing population-dynamics dictate that one ethnic-racial cultural and linguistic people-group cannot claim inheritance from different ethnic-racial, cultural and linguistic people-group. People dynamics logic, dictates, that you cannot claim ancestry from every person that set foot on the land you live on, because not everyone who set foot on it is your ancestor. Cross-fertilization [[by force][by free will]] between Byzantine-Greeks and 6th Century AD, Slavic settlers...FYRoM's Slavic forebears, may have produced a people-group that speaks Slavic now but which retains Hellenic consciousness and collective memory on basis of partial-Greek ancestry, but this is as far back as it can go! <br /><br />FYRoM ex-Yugoslavs staking claim to Macedonian heritage on basis of partial-Greek ancestry goes against the rules governing people-dynamics. FYRoM staking claim and making claims to the Macedonian Name, Identity, History, Heritage, Legacy breaks all the rules. The Macedonian name belongs in the Greek domain. Macedonian identity belongs to Greek heritage. Heritage is ancestral...cultural and physical, tangible and intangible endowment received from immediate forebears. Continuity always follows path of least resistance. Greek cultural and linguistic continuity can be traced back to Mycenaean proto-Greeks through the Byzantine, Hellene line. FYRoM continuity breaks at the partial-Greek ancestry stage. Descendants of 6th Century AD, Slavic settlers, claiming heritage to Macedonian legacy on basis of partial-Greek ancestry, should be weighted against the hierarchical claims from descendants of Byzantine Greek-speakers, claiming heritage from ancient-Hellenes.<br /><br />In the end, it boils down to this: The Macedonian Name belongs in Greek domain. Macedonian identity belongs to Greek heritage. Macedonians, both Greek and Slavic speakers should respect that statement.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1866099065630475981.post-40776490093139471342015-01-14T09:35:27.603+13:002015-01-14T09:35:27.603+13:00Macedon: Greek Kingdom from since the first King K...Macedon: Greek Kingdom from since the first King Karanus, 808-778 BC. The rise of Macedon saw a small Greek Kingdom expand to big Greek empire, an empire that dominated Hellenism in it's entirety. From since it's beginnings at 808 BC, to it's demise in 167 BC...Macedonians never stopped being Greek. From since that time, Macedonians walk like Greeks and talk like Greeks - identity-characteristics which are still in play even today.<br /><br />FYRoM messes with this! FYRoM cannot base it's national identity on the ancestral, cultural, and historical achievements of ancient-Greeks. The Macedonian name belongs in Greek domain. Macedonian identity belongs to Greek heritage. Two simple statements which negate FYRoM claims to the same. The name and identity should be confined to history - Greek history.<br /><br />Resurrecting ancient and archaic regional-tribal names, and then placing them outside of their original ethnic-racial cultural and linguistic settings, is a recipe for disaster, on the basis, it invites conflict in areas where geography overlaps more than one population-group. <br /><br />Macedon: The original Kingdom sits inside Hellenic national borders...Macedonia though, the bigger geographic region, straddles over more than one country. Macedonia the region, today, overlaps the national borders of Bulgaria, Albania and FYRoM. The difference between the Kingdom and the region is geographic. Macedon is where Northern-Greeks dwelt. Macedonia the extended region is where latin-Roman jurisdiction combined the lands of Paeonia and Dardania into one military district they renamed Macedonia Secunda Salutaris. Macedon, under latin-Roman jurisdiction was kept Greek, seperate and distinct, reflecting latin-Roman fondness for all things Greek. Macedonia-Prima is Macedon, the ancient-Greek Kingdom. Macedonia Secunda Salutaris is Paeonia and Dardania...where FYRoM is situated today.<br /><br />FYRoM is not Macedon. FYRoM is Paeonia and Dardania. The difference between Macedon and FYRoM is demographic and geographic. In FYRoM live Yugoslavs...South-Slavs for want of better description. In Macedon live Greeks - from since the days of King Karanus 808-778 BC.<br /><br />FYRoM is where the Slavic tribes settled at top-end of 6th Century AD. The descendants of Slavs cannot be Macedonians in the 'Macedon' sense of the word. Descendants of Slavs can be Macedonians in the regional-geographic sense, on the basis of a resurrected latin-Roman name, Macedonia Secunda Salutaris - it means, Second-Macedonia, or Beneficial-Macedonia in transliteration.<br /><br />FYRoM stakes claim and makes claims, to (i) Macedonian Name, (ii) Macedonian Identity, (iii) Macedonian History, (iv) Macedonian Heritage, (v) Macedonian Legacy...on the basis, FYRoM sits on lands the latin-Romans renamed Macedonia Secunda Salutaris.<br /><br />If you were Greek, you would be ready to burst a blood vessel...right!<br /><br />If you were a Historian, you would do what ever it took to see FYRoM chastised, shamed!<br /><br />If you were a Politician, you would do your very best to keep FYRoM at arms length, at a distance!<br /><br />If you were a Diplomat, you would use the very best diplomatic language to explain to FYRoM the virtues of compromise.<br /><br />The Onus is on FYRoM to compromise in order to end the long-running name-dispute with Greece. The UN, EU, NATO and the International Academic Community advise FYRoM to do that from since 2008. <br /><br />Macedon is Greek Kingdom. Greeks live there >3 Millenniums. Macedonians are Hellenic on this basis.<br /><br />FYRoM is not Macedon!<br /><br />FYRoM is Macedonia Secunda Salutaris - a resurrected latin-Roman name for Paeonian-Dardanian military district.<br /><br />FYRoM based it's name on latin-Roman geographical political division of lands which are located outside the original boundaries of Macedon, the ancient-Greek Kingdom. Evidently, Academia in FYRoM is no good. Historians are no good. Politicians there know this!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1866099065630475981.post-36696669789597817102015-01-12T01:59:45.612+13:002015-01-12T01:59:45.612+13:00Greeks live in Macedonia >3 Millenniums. Greeks...Greeks live in Macedonia >3 Millenniums. Greeks were there during the days of the original Kingdom. Greeks were there during the Roman conquests which culminated in latin-Roman rule. Greeks were there during Greco-Roman rule, in Byzantine theme. Greeks were there during Slavic invasions, incursions and attacks, standing their ground at 6th Century AD. Greeks were there during Turkish domination of Haemus peninsula, in Ottoman Vilayet province. Greeks were there during the Balkan Wars 1912-1913, to ensure Macedonia returns back to Greek hands. Greeks fought the Ottoman Empire, retook Macedonia from the Ottoman-Turks. Greeks hold on to Macedonia, they are still there. Greeks have always been there, in Macedonia. It makes no sense for FYRoM, a recently established minor Slavic country, to rewrite the demographic history of Macedon in way that erases Hellenic identity of ancient-Greek Kingdom. No credible person of worth in the West, from politics, diplomacy or academia, sees FYRoM like Macedon, or Yugoslavians like Macedonians. It makes no sense for a modern Slavic country to covet the name of ancient-Greek Kingdom for country-name...sovereign state-name, nationality, language and ethnicity. During the time of the Kingdom, Macedonians never met Slavs, never spoke Slavic, never lived in FYRoM. It makes no sense to want to alter these academic reference points.<br /><br />There is no solution to the name dispute as long as there are politicians, diplomats and academics in FYRoM willing to use state apparatus to convince children, pupils, and students there to see themselves like Macedonians, and to see ancient-Macedonians like proto-Slavs. Teaching young Slavic children to themselves like Macedonians, to see Greeks like Africans, to see Greece like the enemy, to see Hellenism like loaded word beyond hate, are actions designed to promote arguments, hostility, hatred and confrontation. In FYRoM, young Slavic children see Maps which depict Macedon like Occupied land...Occupied by Greece, from since the Balkan Wars 1912-1913. Those Balkan Wars saw Macedonians and other Greeks fight Ottoman Empire with aim to return Macedon back to Greek hands. <br /><br />FYRoM is not military threat to Greece...FYRoM is more than that. Ideological indoctrination is more dangerous. Brainwashing young Slavic children to see FYRoM like the place where the progenitor of White race sprang from, where the primordial children of proto-Slavs began their ethnogenesis, is just an indoctrination too far! Greeks cannot sit idly-by watching, as FYRoM humiliates Greeks, ridicules Greece and belittles Hellenism. Those who aided and abetted FYRoM to see Greece go down have mysteriously gone underground now, too shameless to come out, to face the music, now that Greece holds the legal, moral and academic high ground. The West lost it's way, where FYRoM is concerned. The West gave FYRoM and inch but they took a mile. After many warnings, things panned out exactly the way Greeks, legal-teams, and historians predicted. FYRoM now, uses quasi-official recognition to stake claim and make claims, to the Macedonian Name, Identity, History, Heritage, Legacy - against all the rules governing People-Dynamics.<br /><br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1866099065630475981.post-91916026118456652482014-12-15T00:00:55.350+13:002014-12-15T00:00:55.350+13:00The ancient-Hellenic Tribes were made-up from a co...The ancient-Hellenic Tribes were made-up from a collection of >230 known, ancient-Greek groups, tribes and Kingdoms. Did they all share the same blood, the same Dna, the same features, the same morphology, the same skeletal frame and skull...I doubt it! So what was it that united the ancient-Hellenes into one unified people-group - Alexander the Great maybe?<br /><br />Blood and Dna belong to race, if race can be defined to mean the morphological correlation between people-groups, scattered or not, found sharing same similar skeletal frame who's features relate to distinguishable anthropological skull type. Ethnicity is different. Ethnicity is cultural, something learned, under strict authoritarian conditions or not.<br /><br />Today, Nations are rarely made up of just one type of people-group, sharing the same distinguishable racial features, dressed in same local traditional woven attire, subscribing to same similar belief system, recollecting same collective-memory through folklore, waving same national symbols, feeling same sense of pride in their achievements from the past to the present.<br /><br />Nation building today is difficult. FYRoM is a case in point, a prime example where newly emergent country attempts to construct semblance of nation, following instruction from the ACME little red book of Nation building. <br /><br />Alongside that ACME little Red Book of Nation Building is also another little book, entitled the ACME little Red Book of Population Dynamics...sold in Twin Pack. Understanding people-dynamics is essential when building Nations from disparate ethnically programmed people-groups, each of them carrying their own unique cultural-baggage. Under these conditions, a unifying factor is sought, under which all of them could unite. <br /><br />In FYRoM, some bright spark came up with the idea to unite everyone under the banner of Makedonism, the ideology who's doctrine attempts to instill in the peoples there a sense of ethnic-pride in ancient-Macedon, the Greek Kingdom that was ruled by King Philip of Macedon, a powerful hero figure in antiquity who's son Alexander the Great conquered the then known, ancient world.<br /><br />The problem for those FYRoM Nation builders is this: Macedon is Greek Kingdom. Macedonians are Hellenic on that basis. The rest is history... <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1866099065630475981.post-38414687450894391992014-12-13T12:46:01.317+13:002014-12-13T12:46:01.317+13:00People are just people...wandering free spirits. S...People are just people...wandering free spirits. So people take journey's. People wander into and out of, cultural-linguistic spaces, by force, by choice or by chance. If that place is hospitable enough, civilized enough, and rich enough to accommodate their needs, some people would find those things attractive enough to settle there. So in this regard, we can only talk about people like wandering free spirits, carrying with them some cultural baggage inherited from the previous cultural-linguistic area they decided to vacate. <br /><br />People have been uprooting themselves from since time immemorial, by their own free-choice or not, the point here is to illustrate the fact that biological make-up, blood and Dna, are not important factors on voyage towards development of new ethnicity. People with history, with previous ethnicity, with previous cultural-linguistic affiliations, are free to place those things on-hold during acculturation, the transitional period that leads to proper assimilation. History and the laws of People-Dynamics tell us that within 200 years or 8 generations, people can replace ethnicity with new one, replace language with new one, replace culture with new one. I shall not cite examples - that is for the reader to investigate and research.<br /><br />Long time ago, recorded in history, Slavic tribes uprooted themselves from steppe primordial homeland, a journey which led them to wander into new Greco-Roman cultural-linguistic area. The settlement of the Slavs into the Byzantine Empire is well documented. FYRoM's immediate ancestors were the Draguvites, Sagudates and Berzetes. So FYRoM is Slavic in this regard. People-Dynamics ensured that within 200 years or 8 generations, the previous pre-Slavic Greco-Roman population there Slavicized, by force, or by fee-will. On this basis, FYRoM has been Slavic place from since the 6th Century AD, a cultural-linguistic area that can boast continuum >1400 years of Slavic history, where the Slavic-language, culture, and tradition has been practiced there for the same. FYRoM now though, appears to be in transition, on a journey towards development of new ethnicity, incorporating with it new identity-factors which do not follow the laws People-Dynamics taught us. The peoples there appear to be on voyage towards discarding their Slavic inheritance, shedding their Slavic cultural-linguistic identity for a Macedonian Hellenic one.<br /><br />FYRoM, without following the rules and laws People-Dynamics taught us, where (i) peoples are <br />free to wander into, and outof, the cultural-linguistic spaces of others,(ii) people are free to settle, if they consider the place hospitable enough, civilized enough and rich enough to accommodate their needs,(iii) people are free to put on hold, their previous ethnicity during acculturation period,(iv) people are free to assimilate on acceptance by the host community,(v) people are free to absorb the language culture and traditions of host community,(vi) people are free to develop same ethnic-feelings, same collective-memories, same national pride of the host nation. FYRoM did none of these things. FYRoM did not follow the rules and laws of People-Dynamics, instead, FYRoM follows path of usurping them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1866099065630475981.post-12926664110053322922014-12-12T09:01:39.596+13:002014-12-12T09:01:39.596+13:00Macedonia:Understanding Haemus Peninsula History a...Macedonia:Understanding Haemus Peninsula History and People-Dynamics. <br /><br />People are just people...wandering free spirits. So people take journey's. People wander into and out of, cultural-linguistic spaces, by force, by choice or by chance. If that place is hospitable enough, civilized enough, and rich enough to accommodate their needs, some people would find those things attractive enough to settle there. So in this regard, we can only talk about people like wandering free spirits, carrying with them some cultural baggage inherited from the previous cultural-linguistic area they decided to vacate. <br /><br />People have been uprooting themselves from since time immemorial, by their own free-choice or not, the point here is to illustrate the fact that biological make-up, blood and Dna, are not important factors on voyage towards development of new ethnicity. People with history, with previous ethnicity, with previous cultural-linguistic affiliations, are free to place those things on-hold during acculturation, the transitional period that leads to proper assimilation. History and the laws of People-Dynamics tell us that within 200 years or 8 generations, people can replace ethnicity with new one, replace language with new one, replace culture with new one. I shall not cite examples - that is for the reader to investigate and research.<br /><br />Long time ago, recorded in history, Slavic tribes uprooted themselves from steppe primordial homeland, a journey which led them to wander into new Greco-Roman cultural-linguistic area. The settlement of the Slavs into the Byzantine Empire is well documented. FYRoM's immediate ancestors were the Draguvites, Sagudates and Berzetes. So FYRoM is Slavic in this regard. People-Dynamics ensured that within 200 years or 8 generations, the previous pre-Slavic Greco-Roman population there Slavicized, by force, or by fee-will. On this basis, FYRoM has been Slavic place from since the 6th Century AD, a cultural-linguistic area that can boast continuum >1400 years of Slavic history, where the Slavic-language, culture, and tradition has been practiced there for the same. FYRoM now though, appears to be in transition, on a journey towards development of new ethnicity, incorporating with it new identity-factors which do not follow the laws People-Dynamics taught us. The peoples there appear to be on voyage towards discarding their Slavic inheritance, shedding their Slavic cultural-linguistic identity for a Macedonian Hellenic one.<br /><br />FYRoM, without following the rules and laws People-Dynamics taught us, where (i) peoples are <br />free to wander into, and outof, the cultural-linguistic spaces of others,(ii) people are free to settle, if they consider the place hospitable enough, civilized enough and rich enough to accommodate their needs,(iii) people are free to put on hold, their previous ethnicity during acculturation period,(iv) people are free to assimilate on acceptance by the host community,(v) people are free to absorb the language culture and traditions of host community,(vi) people are free to develop same ethnic-feelings, same collective-memories, same national pride of the host nation. FYRoM did none of these things. FYRoM did not follow the rules and laws of People-Dynamics, instead, FYRoM follows path of usurping them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1866099065630475981.post-33049176259438203692014-12-06T23:43:23.384+13:002014-12-06T23:43:23.384+13:00FYRoM cannot exist on northern periphery of Greece...FYRoM cannot exist on northern periphery of Greece using the name of ancient-Greek Kingdom for country-name...sovereign state-name, nationality, language and ethnicity - Why? Because FYRoM is anti-Hellenic entity, the most racist hateful deceitful South-Slavs ever to settle the Greek peninsula. Evidently, the old-Yugoslavia produced people-groups so anti-Hellenic, they devised genetic and historical propaganda to displace Greeks from demographic history of the Haemus [Greek] peninsula. Yugoslavs, under strict authoritarian conditions were taught to see themselves like native, indigenous peoples. Pre-Slavic peoples were depicted like biological medium for transmitting to Slavs, all they had to give. So from them, after intermixing, the Slavs inherit things their exogenous forebears played no active part in. Yugoslavian propagandists produced >1001 Theories Ideas and Conjectures that explain to the young, how Slavs connect more to the Haemus than the Greeks. Genetic propaganda coupled with historical propaganda indoctrinates young Slavic children pupils and students today. They believe Greeks are foreigners from Africa, whilst they are native pure and indigenous. Hence they find it difficult to believe the opposite, that the reverse is true.<br /><br />Geneticists, Anthroplogists, Archaelogists, Demographers, Historians, Philologists and Linguists, place the Greeks in one defined cultural-linguistic space from since the beginning of recorded history. Greeks have existed in the Haemus, the primordial homeland, from since the dawn of time. Before that time, who knows about Greeks. Time is factor from which historians map and place historical people-groups. The evidence tells us about Greeks from that time or Greeks from more forward time, across the historical spectrum. The point is, there has always been Greeks in the primordial homelands. Yugoslavic propaganda, genetic or historical, is too crude and too crass to displace Greeks from history or the Haemus. FYRoM is main heir and inheritor of that old-Yugoslavic anti-Hellenic propaganda. From there, they still promote those Theories Ideas and Conjectures that convert FYRoM South-Slavs to native Macedonians, and Greeks, foreigners from Africa. FYRoM is anti-Hellenic entity...the most anti-Hellenic people-group to come out of Yugoslavia.<br /><br />Greeks cannot stand idly-by watching, whilst South-Slavs demean Greeks, ridicule Greece, and belittle Hellenism. <br />We are too proud for that. Greeks cannot permit South-Slavic peoples to use name of ancient-Greek Kingdom for country-name...sovereign state-name, nationality, language and ethnicity. Greeks cannot allow old-Yugoslavic propaganda to permeate against Hellenism. Propaganda must not be rewarded. Propaganda must be confronted, challenged, questioned and then corrected. This is what Greeks do from since the advent of <br />Macedonia:Out Of Yugoslavia Theory<br /><br />FYRoM onto world stage, the most anti-Hellenic entity ever to come out of Yugoslavia. To this day, South-Slavs still refuse to believe that Macedon was Greek Kingdom, and that Macedonians have always been Greek-speaking Hellenic peoples.<br />Greeks cannot live under cloud of hostility and anti-Hellenism - indefinately! <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1866099065630475981.post-1914487951469734902014-12-01T00:14:35.064+13:002014-12-01T00:14:35.064+13:00Macedon is Greek Kingdom same as Sparta is Greek K...Macedon is Greek Kingdom same as Sparta is Greek Kingdom - Both are Dorian, and both Greek. If minor Slavic country today, stepped on to world stage and claimed the name of Spartan Kingdom for country-name...sovereign state-name, nationality, language and ethnicity - How should the West react to such anti-Hellenic action? anti-Western by extension. In the Western worlds long-established cultural-historical narrative, Sparta is Greek Kingdom same as Macedon, both Dorian, both Greek. Who could argue otherwise. Those who do argue against have to explain themselves? FYRoM explains itself by using revisionism and pseudo-history. <br /><br />The FYRoM version of history differs from the Western standard. In the FYRoM version, Slavists convert the ancient-Kingdom of Paeonia to the ancient-Kingdom of Macedon. They convert ancient-Macedonians to Proto-Slavs. They convert the Centum-Greek language of ancient-Macedon to Satem-Slavic Serbo-Bulgarian. They convert the classics into something Vulgar...then plead for Western recognition - recognition that will eventually enable them to join the Euro-Atlantic economic and security area. <br /><br />The West gave this newly emergent country an inch, and it took a mile. The West gave this recently established country a chance to join the Western-worlds most prestigious economic and security structures of the EU and NATO. The West gave this minor Slavic country the opportunity to mend issues with neighbouring states - FYRoM gave nothing back. Instead, FYRoM continues to dupe the West by saying all the right things, but doing the wrong things.<br /><br />The West cannot accept into it's midst, a recently established country that has issues with neighbouring states. Those issues must be resolved. The most pressing, and the most contentious issue FYRoM has, is the issue of the name-dispute with Greece over the use of the Macedonian name which FYRoM wants to use for country-name...sovereign state-name, nationality, language and ethnicity. Greece contends, there can be No 'Republic of Macedonia' just as there can be No 'Republic of Sparta,' both Dorian and both Greek. Macedon and Sparta are People-Names and Place-Names that belong in Hellenic world, to Hellenism, created by Greeks for Greek use.<br /><br />FYRoM clings on to the Idea, that one day, the West shall turn against Greece and fully recognize FYRoM like 'Republic of Macedonia' whereby Greece is then ejected from the EU and NATO, and FYRoM fills the void. The West would then view FYRoM like the legitimate heir and inheritor of the Macedonian legacy. The Macedonian Name, Identity, History, Heritage and Legacy would then shift over to FYRoM cultural-historical ownership and everything would be all good, fluffy and white - FYRoM would thern be content little bunny!<br /><br />In the real world of politics...Greece holds the Acdemic, Moral and Legal high ground. In the real world of diplomacy, the Onus is on FYRoM to compromise, to adopt a name that properly reflects the ethnic-racial, cultural and linguistic reality in FYRoM. The Macedonian name, like the Spartan name, are names that are far too rooted in hellenism to be contested. For example: Macedon is Greek Kingdom. Macedonians are Hellenic on the basis. Another example: Sparta is Greek Kingdom. Spartans are Hellenic on same basis. Final example: There can be No Republic of Macedonia, just as there can be No Republic of Sparta - both are Dorian, both are Greek.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1866099065630475981.post-20814788557815515972014-11-29T23:37:50.843+13:002014-11-29T23:37:50.843+13:00Those who indulge FYRoM by calling this minor Slav...Those who indulge FYRoM by calling this minor Slavic country 'Macedonia' keep the name dispute between FYRoM and Greece from reaching conclusion. Why? because there is no incentive on the part of FYRoM to compromise. For as long as there exists media platforms out there willing to indulge FYRoM continue airing, publishing, and advertising itself as the Republic of Macedonia...the name dispute shall remain unresolved.<br /><br />Greece cannot allow this minor Slavic country to benefit from Greek contributions towards Western Civilizational Principles their ancestors played no active part in. Macedon and Macedonians contributed greatly towards Western worlds cultural-historical foundation, FYRoM contributed nothing - Why should this minor Slavic country benefit from the Macedonian Name, Identity, History, Heritage and Legacy. <br /><br />FYRoM uses Greek symbols and Hellenic regalia for fun, to ridicule Greeks and humiliate Hellenism. FYRoM raises the middle finger at the West in the process. FYRoM holds the West responsible for creating Greeks in the first place. According to their warped mind-set, Greece was created by the West in order to cheat the Slavic race from it's real history and heritage in the Haemus peninsula, which they equate to Alexander the Great and the ancient-Macedonians from antiquity. Alexander the Great for them becomes Aleksandar Veliki, the first Czar of the Slavs, a great proto-Slavic hero.<br /><br />When Greeces Western-Partners and European-Cousins indulge FYRoM, calling the place 'Republic of Macedonia,' calling ex-Yugoslavians, 'Macedonians,' they are entertaining a cause which is not just anti-Hellenic at heart, it is also anti-Western by extension. For the Greeks, FYRoM is anti-Hellenic entity, we see it in their actions and in their words...for >3 decades now.<br /><br />The name-dispute between FYRoM and Greece shall never conclude for as long as FYRoM is indulged and entertained to continue using the name of ancient-Greek Kingdom for country-name...sovereign state-name, nationality, language and ethnicity. For them, the way they see it, they have already achieved ultimate aim. My nationality is Macedonian. I am Macedonian because I live in Republic of Macedonia and speak Macedonian, therefore, I am ethnic-Macedonian - goes the logic.<br /><br />If the above were ever legitimized, Greeks and Hellenism would have lost at the stroke of a pen, >3 Millenniums worth of Greek history to minor Slavic country FYRoM.<br /><br />Can You See it Now! <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1866099065630475981.post-66688649709150310762014-11-12T10:41:38.544+13:002014-11-12T10:41:38.544+13:00Macedonians have always been a Centum-Greek speaki...Macedonians have always been a Centum-Greek speaking Hellenic-peoples. For as long as they exist, No other foreign people-group could use their name for country-name...sovereign state-name, nationality, language and ethnicity. FYRoM, a minor Slavic country recently established covets the Macedonian name for country-name - sovereign state-name, nationality, language and ethnicity.<br /><br />There can be No Republic of Macedonia, just as there can be No Republic of Sparta...No Republic of Athens, No Republic of Corinth,<br />No Republic of Argos, No Republic of Epirus, No Republic of Thessaly. All of these People-Names and Place-Names belong to Hellenism, they belong in Greek domain, they belong to Greek Collective of Peoples. FYRoM cannot use the name of an ancient-Greek Kingdom for country-name - sovereign state-name, nationality, language and ethnicity on that basis.<br /><br />FYRoM is Not Macedonia. FYRoM-language is Not Macedonian. FYRoM inhabitants are Not Macedonians...in the Greek sense of that word. FYRoM is Paeonia. FYRoM-language is Serbo-Bulgarian. FYRoM inhabitants are South-Slavs. Macedonians never spoke the FYRoM language. Macedonians never lived in FYRoM. Macedonians always spoke Centum-Greek and always lived in Macedon, the ancient-Greek Kingdom.<br /><br />FYRoM cannot exist on the northern periphery of Greece, using the name of an ancient-Greek Kingdom for country-name...sovereign state-name, nationality and ethnicity - Why ? Because FYRoM is anti-Hellenic entity, anti-Western by extension. FYRoM like Turkey, take from the West all they can benefit. They give nothing back. FYRoM like Turkey, erodes Western worlds cultural foundations. Both FYRoM and Turkey script themselves national historical narratives that mock Western worlds long-established cultural-historical narrative. Both FYRoM and Turkey work in tandem to see Haemus [Greek] peninsula stripped from it's primordial Hellenic heritage. Oriental Musulman Turks see themselves in ancient Troy, they see ancient-Trojans for ancestors. FYRoM does the same like Turkey. FYRoM South-Slavs see themselves in ancient Macedonia, they see ancient-Macedonians for ancestors.<br /><br />Greeks live next to primitive TurkoSlavic peoples who seem hell-bent on rewriting demographic history of Greek peninsula! Greeks have right to defend and protect Hellenic Republics history and heritage in the primordial homeland, the peninsula of it's birth. Macedonians have right to keep as Greek as possible, the Identity-Characteristics of their regional-historical Haemus-Hellenic ancestors.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1866099065630475981.post-70460168447800867682014-11-04T09:22:54.121+13:002014-11-04T09:22:54.121+13:00I don’t see anything wrong with Greeks wanting to ...I don’t see anything wrong with Greeks wanting to preserve their history and heritage free from FYRoM pseudo-historical propaganda. Do You see anything wrong ?<br /><br />I see nothing wrong in Greeks wanting to keep Macedonian Identity-characteristics Hellenic. Do You anything wrong ? I see plenty wrong in FYRoM South-Slavs wanting to make Macedonian Identity-characteristics Slavic. Macedon is ancient-Greek Kingdom. Macedonians are Hellenic on that basis. Who got front to contest it.<br /><br />I see nothing wrong in Greeks wanting to keep the Macedonian name in the Greek domain. Do You see anything wrong ? I see plenty wrong in FYRoM wanting to use the Macedonian name for country-name…sovereign state-name, nationality, language and ethnicity. Centum-Greek speaking Hellenic-peoples created that name. Who got face to deny it!<br /><br />I see nothing wrong in Greeks wanting to keep the Western worlds cultural-historical narrative intact, not held hostage to revisionism and unsubstantiated pseudo-historical Theories Ideas Conjectures. Do You anything wrong ? I see plenty wrong in FYRoM spreading pseudo-historical propaganda directed at the Hellenic-peoples, the Hellenic Republic and Hellenism, the culture that shaped Western worlds cultural-historical foundation.<br /><br />I see nothing wrong in Greeks wanting to resolve the name dispute in peaceful amicable manner, in manner that keeps Macedon Greek and FYRoM enlightened. Do You see anything wrong ? I see plenty wrong in FYRoM South-Slavs saying they want to resolve the name dispute, but on the proviso they keep the Macedonian name for country-name…sovereign state-name, nationality, language and ethnicity.<br /><br />I see nothing wrong in Macedonians wanting to practice their self-determination right to keep as Greek as possible, the identity-characteristics of their regional-historical Haemus-Hellenic ancestors. Do You see anything wrong ? I see plenty wrong in FYRoM South-Slavs wanting to superimpose Macedonian Identity-characteristics over their paternal-ancestral South-Slavic ones.<br /><br />I see nothing wrong in Greeks wanting to protect and preserve their history in accordance with the Western worlds long-established cultural-historical narrative. Do You see anything wrong with that ?<br /><br />Macedonians stand at forefront of long chain of Greek-speakers…a cultural-linguistic continuum spanning millennia. Macedonians look back at themselves and awe at their Hellenic inheritance.<br /><br />Who got face to besmirch them!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1866099065630475981.post-38344399167667871012014-10-15T07:35:30.836+13:002014-10-15T07:35:30.836+13:00Catch 22 - Chicken and egg - Chapter and Verse - O...Catch 22 - Chicken and egg - Chapter and Verse - One without the Other. There can be no Macedonia without Greeks, because it took Greeks to create Macedon...the ancient-Greek Kingdom. There can be no Egypt without Greek, it took Greeks to create this term. There can be no Evropi without Greeks - It took Greeks to create this concept. All of these things would not exist without Greeks, because it took Greeks for them to exist in the first place.<br /><br />No West without Greeks...It took Greeks to create this civilization. It took Greeks to create the conditions for culture and civilization to develop Western-Style. No Western Civilization without Greeks. It took Greeks for Western Civilization to exist. No West. No Evropi. No Egypt. No Macedonia - It took Greeks for all of these things to exist in the first place.<br /><br />Conclusion: FYRoM is not Macedonia. The FYRoM language is not Macedonian. FYRoM peoples are not Macedonians.<br /><br />Macedonians never lived in FYRoM. Macedonians never spoke the FYRoM language. Macedonians never affiliated with Slavdom - FYRoM does not have right to covet the Macedonian Name for country-name...sovereign state-name, nationality, language and ethnicity.<br /><br />Those who push FYRoM to seek ethnogenic origins in Macedonia are pushing the wrong way. Macedonia is not there, where FYRoM is situated. Paeonia is there. FYRoM sits on Paeonian-lands, Dardanian-lands north from Skopje. Conclusion: FYRoM is not Macedonia and the peoples there are Slavic.<br /><br />It took a Croat to create FYRoM. It took a Croatian South-Slav for FYRoM to exist. Comrade Jozip Broz Tito created FYRoM - the most anti-Hellenic entity known to Greeks, the West, the UN, EU, NATO and the International Academic Community.<br /><br />Macedon in FYRoM hands would cease to exist as ancient-Greek Kingdom. Macedonians in FYRoM hands would cease to exist as Greeks. Macedonians Greek-Hellenic identity would be erased from demographic history of Haemus [Greek] peninsula. FYRoM revisionism would script them like peoples different from Greeks. <br /><br />The West owes Greece for creating the conditions for culture and civilization to develop Western-Style. Greece fights for preservation of historical cohesion. Greece fights for Hellenism. Hellenism deserves the respect of the West. There can be no Macedonia without Greeks. FYRoM cannot use this name for country-name...sovereign state-name, nationality, language and ethnicity without humiliating Greeks, belittling Hellenism and ridiculing the West.<br /><br />Hellenism deserves respect of the West. Greece is the West. Greece shall protect Hellenic Republics national history. Greeks shall defend their Hellenic heritage...<br /><br />...Come Hell or High Water. <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com